Why John Myers 1742-1826 born NC, died MS, is not the son of John Myers/Ann Bruce, in images.

This is a snapshot of the Myers DNA Project, showing the Myers R1b group,  lineage X. Terminal ancestors in this group are William Myers Sr, who passes in TN in 1823, Charles Myers, who passes in MO in 1857, and John Myers, 1742-1826, born in NC, and passes in MS.


Now, a lot of the Myers in Greene Co TN are actually haplogroup G, as opposed to the more conventional R1b (not that R1b-P312+-Z39300+ is a typical German)


Now, let’s get to John Myers/Ann Bruce. It turns out the known documented descendants of this pair are R1a, not R1b. And R1a doesn’t transmogrify into R1b overnight. They are the R1a-lineage II below. I know from personal conversations with Neil Myers that all those R-YP639 assignments are backed by a BIGY test.


One of the take homes from this analysis is that the common birth date assigned to John Myers NC-MS may just be a fabrication, chosen to be identical to a John Myers child born to John Myers+Ann Bruce.  We do know he was married, and the date is often given as 1774, and that he was old enough to be a Rev. War veteran. But the exact date of his birth may be hard to find.

Big Y tested. R-BY15581. Z38300+

I had decided that if my work gave me a bonus, I’d have the BIG Y done. It was frustrating not having a known terminal SNP, and I wasn’t sure what else I could do to get there. Just, BIG Y is expensive. In this case, I’d say it was worth it.

Turns out the TX Myers Y-DNA is rare. We were the first family with a BIG-Y test that was Z39300 positive that claimed continental European origins. All others were from the Britain/Scotland/Ireland cluster. So that means we’re pretty unique, and that we changed, in a small way, the Y-DNA tree. The data are here. And that small portion of the tree changed when our data were added.

We’re not the only family with this cluster. There are close STR matches on familytree that likely have it as well. Some are found in the Feichts of Pennsylvania, and perhaps other families as well.

That’s the good news. The bad news is that genetic genealogy is illegal in France and Germany, and so we’re not going to be given help from overseas. It’s going to require more grunt work on our side of the Atlantic.